How did you start?
We started with education—books, podcasts, and lots of note-taking. We read everything we could get our hands on (book list coming soon!) and joined free weekly BiggerPockets webinars like “How to Find a Deal.” Our goal was to understand what makes a good market and how to analyze a good deal. Once we felt confident in the fundamentals, we started running the numbers on real properties and making offers.
Why Providence & Philadelphia?
First off—they’re just great cities. Second, the math made sense. We could find properties that cash flowed, which was key to building long-term wealth. We intentionally started with lower-priced homes so we could afford to make mistakes (and learn from them) without putting all our savings at risk.
Isn’t real estate investing risky?
When we told people we were investing in real estate, we got all the horror stories. Everyone has an uncle or a neighbor who lost everything on a bad deal. And yeah, it can be risky. But for us, the alternative—sitting on cash and hoping for the best—felt even riskier. That’s why we spent so much time learning how to analyze deals, run the numbers conservatively, and always plan for worst-case scenarios. Education + preparation = less risk.
Aren’t all landlords terrible humans?
We’ve had our share of bad landlords. (Ask us about the luxury NYC apartment that leaked every time it rained.) Yes, some landlords are exploitative. But not all. We believe in being fair, responsive, and transparent. Our goal is to provide clean, safe, and comfortable housing—and treat our tenants the way we’d want to be treated.
Do you manage the properties yourselves?
For the first few years, yes—we did everything from tenant screening to unclogging toilets. It taught us a lot. Now we use property managers in some cities so we can focus on growing our portfolio (and having a life). But even with managers, we stay involved. We believe the best landlords are the ones who care and pay attention.
What’s your end goal?
Financial freedom. That doesn’t mean sitting on a beach all day (although… maybe sometimes). It means having the option to choose how we spend our time. We want to retire early, travel more, spend time with family, and help others start their own investing journey.
What if I want to get started but feel overwhelmed?
Totally normal. We felt that way too. The key is to take one small step at a time. Read one book. Listen to one podcast. Run the numbers on one property. It starts to add up faster than you think. And if you’re here, you’re already ahead of where we were when we started.